A simpler question

[George Mitchell]

1. Are you a Thunderbird user on FreeBSD?
2. Do you see a "chart with rising trend," "chart with falling trend,"
"bar chart," and "clipboard" emojis (U+1F4C8 through U+1F4CB) on the
next line?
📈 📉 📊 📋
Thank you for your attention. -- George

[George Mitchell]

Post by George Mitchell
1. Are you a Thunderbird user on FreeBSD?
2. Do you see a "chart with rising trend," "chart with falling trend,"
"bar chart," and "clipboard" emojis (U+1F4C8 through U+1F4CB) on the
next line?
📈    📉    📊    📋
Thank you for your attention.                                -- George

Partially answering my own question: Using chrome to browse the mailing
list archive, the emojis showed up perfectly, as they did on a Bcc to my
backup gmail account. But I could not see them when composing the
message, or reading the message from the list, in Thunderbird.
-- George

[George Mitchell]

Post by George Mitchell

Post by George Mitchell
1. Are you a Thunderbird user on FreeBSD?
2. Do you see a "chart with rising trend," "chart with falling trend,"
"bar chart," and "clipboard" emojis (U+1F4C8 through U+1F4CB) on the
next line?
📈    📉    📊    📋
Thank you for your attention.                                -- George

Partially answering my own question: Using chrome to browse the mailing
list archive, the emojis showed up perfectly, as they did on a Bcc to my
backup gmail account.  But I could not see them when composing the
message, or reading the message from the list, in Thunderbird.
-- George

I have just installed `pkg install noto-emoji`
so i can see the emoji in this email in Thunderbird on CURRENT
(exactly as I see them on my android smartphone).
Alfonso

I have noto-emoji 2.042 installed, and I am running 13.2-RELEASE-p10.
But no visible emojis without chrome. -- George

[George Mitchell]

I see them fine in Thunderbird/KDE5 on 14.0-RELEASE-p6
        noto-emoji: 2.042_1
        twemoji-color-font-ttf: 14.0.2
        unicode-emoji: 15.1
[...]I had the first two installed and I just now added unicode-emoji, but

nothing changed (even after restarting X). -- George

[George Mitchell]

I see them fine in Thunderbird/KDE5 on 14.0-RELEASE-p6
         noto-emoji: 2.042_1
         twemoji-color-font-ttf: 14.0.2
         unicode-emoji: 15.1
[...]I had the first two installed and I just now added
unicode-emoji, but

nothing changed (even after restarting X).               -- George

Have you explicitly defined FontPath in xorg.conf?  If so, it may need
to be updated.
"man xorg.conf" has the details.
It's been a while since I've done any manual xorg.conf tweaks.  I use
sysutils/desktop-installer now, which adds a couple of snippets to
/etc/xorg.conf.d, but leaves Xorg to mostly autoconfigure.

I have no Xorg.conf and no /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.
My /usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is unchanged from when it was
created. Also, all emojis work fine in chrome. Thanks for the
suggestions. -- George

[Jason Bacon]

Post by George Mitchell
1. Are you a Thunderbird user on FreeBSD?
2. Do you see a "chart with rising trend," "chart with falling trend,"
"bar chart," and "clipboard" emojis (U+1F4C8 through U+1F4CB) on the
next line?
📈    📉    📊    📋
Thank you for your attention.                                -- George

I see them in my default Thunderbird setup. Quite small, about the same
as the font size.

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[Jason Bacon]

Post by George Mitchell
1. Are you a Thunderbird user on FreeBSD?
2. Do you see a "chart with rising trend," "chart with falling trend,"
"bar chart," and "clipboard" emojis (U+1F4C8 through U+1F4CB) on the
next line?
📈    📉    📊    📋
Thank you for your attention.                                -- George

I see them in my default Thunderbird setup.  Quite small, about the same
as the font size.

FreeBSD moray.acadix bacon ~ 1000: pkg info | grep moji
twemoji-color-font-ttf-14.0.2 Color emoji font using Twitter Unicode 10

FreeBSD moray.acadix bacon ~ 1001: uname -a
FreeBSD moray.acadix.biz 14.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE-p6 #0: Tue
Mar 26 20:26:20 UTC 2024
***@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC
amd64

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[Jason Bacon]

Post by George Mitchell

Post by George Mitchell

Post by George Mitchell
1. Are you a Thunderbird user on FreeBSD?
2. Do you see a "chart with rising trend," "chart with falling trend,"
"bar chart," and "clipboard" emojis (U+1F4C8 through U+1F4CB) on the
next line?
📈    📉    📊    📋
Thank you for your attention.                                -- George

Partially answering my own question: Using chrome to browse the mailing
list archive, the emojis showed up perfectly, as they did on a Bcc to my
backup gmail account.  But I could not see them when composing the
message, or reading the message from the list, in Thunderbird.
-- George

I have just installed `pkg install noto-emoji`
so i can see the emoji in this email in Thunderbird on CURRENT
(exactly as I see them on my android smartphone).
Alfonso

I have noto-emoji 2.042 installed, and I am running 13.2-RELEASE-p10.
But no visible emojis without chrome.                        -- George

Did you restart X11, so the new fonts are loaded? When I removed
twemoji-color-font-ttf, the icons stopped rendering properly.
Reinstalling it and restarting Thunderbird was not sufficient.

--
Life is a game. Play hard. Play fair. Have fun.

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[George Mitchell]

Post by George Mitchell

Post by George Mitchell
1. Are you a Thunderbird user on FreeBSD?
2. Do you see a "chart with rising trend," "chart with falling trend,"
"bar chart," and "clipboard" emojis (U+1F4C8 through U+1F4CB) on the
next line?
📈    📉    📊    📋
Thank you for your attention.                                -- George

Partially answering my own question: Using chrome to browse the mailing
list archive, the emojis showed up perfectly, as they did on a Bcc to my
backup gmail account.  But I could not see them when composing the
message, or reading the message from the list, in Thunderbird.
-- George

I can see them.
#  pkg info -x 'emoji|thunderbird'
noto-emoji-2.042_1
thunderbird-115.11.0_2
twemoji-color-font-ttf-14.0.2

I have those same ports installed, though I build them locally (due
to a long term love/hate relation with CUPS). (Actually, I see I have
thunderbird 115.8.0_1. I'll get an update started.)

Proportional: Sans Serif
Serif: Default (Noto Serif)
Sans-serif: Adobe Helvetica
Monospace: Termius (TTF)

Proportional: Sans Serif
Serif: Default (Noto Serif)
Sans-serif: Default (Noto Sans)
Monospace: Default (Noto Sans Mono)

Kind regards
Miroslav Lachman

Also, I run xfce4-4.16, and Mousepad also doesn't show emojis.
Thanks for your help. -- George

[George Mitchell]

[...]  (Actually, I see I have
thunderbird 115.8.0_1.  I'll get an update started.)

[...]

I have upgraded thunderbird from 115.8.0_1 -> 115.11.0_2 and firefox
from 123.0_3,2 -> 126.0_2,2, but it doesn't fix my emojis. -- George

[George Mitchell]

It's probably gtk/fontconfig issue. See if there's anything in
~/.config/fontconfig/ and try moving it out of the way.

Funny you should mention that. Indeed, I had to create a fonts.conf
there to deal with thunderbird turning ligature-able sequences (ffl,
e.g.) into ligatures even for monospaced fonts. I'll try moving that
away and see what happens . . .

In my case thunderbird will show color unicode chars if either
'twemoji-color-font-ttf' or 'noto-emoji' are installed. They would look
a little different depending on which one is installed, and it would
prefer noto-emoji if both are there. Otherwise will show blank.
Mousepad shows them only when noto-emoji is installed, no show for other
emoji fonts

Well, I definitely have noto-emoji installed.

Firefox has it's own bundled in
/usr/local/lib/firefox/fonts/TwemojiMozilla.ttf. So might as well copy
this file into ~/.fonts/ and see if that's going to help...

Okay, I've done that. Now I'll restart . . .

Holy cow! Something helped! I'm going to revert my .config/fontconfig
change, because I think it was the TwemojiMozilla.ttf change ...

Yup, it was copying TwemojiMozilla.ttf to ~/.fonts. It fixed both
thunderbird and firefox for me! Thank you! (And everyone who is
tired of hearing me rant about emojis thanks you too.) -- George

[...]

[Jason Bacon]

I see them fine in Thunderbird/KDE5 on 14.0-RELEASE-p6
         noto-emoji: 2.042_1
         twemoji-color-font-ttf: 14.0.2
         unicode-emoji: 15.1
[...]I had the first two installed and I just now added unicode-emoji, but

nothing changed (even after restarting X).               -- George

Have you explicitly defined FontPath in xorg.conf? If so, it may need
to be updated.

"man xorg.conf" has the details.

It's been a while since I've done any manual xorg.conf tweaks. I use
sysutils/desktop-installer now, which adds a couple of snippets to
/etc/xorg.conf.d, but leaves Xorg to mostly autoconfigure.

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[George Mitchell]

Post by George Mitchell
1. Are you a Thunderbird user on FreeBSD?
2. Do you see a "chart with rising trend," "chart with falling trend,"
"bar chart," and "clipboard" emojis (U+1F4C8 through U+1F4CB) on the
next line?
📈    📉    📊    📋
Thank you for your attention.                                -- George

The story so far:
It works fine to copy /usr/local/lib/firefox/fonts/TwemojiMozilla.ttf
to ~/.fonts.

However, it also works to install a symlink instead of copying, so that
when you update firefox, improvements in the font (if there are any)
will get used automatically.

Copying /usr/local/share/fonts/noto/NotoColorEmoji.ttf to ~/.fonts,
or installing a symlink, has no effect.

But symlinking from ~/.fonts/TwemojiMozilla.ttf to
/usr/local/share/fonts/noto/NotoColorEmoji.ttf works fine, too.

Okay; no more about emojis now. Thank you all for your patience.
-- George